tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.comments2024-02-22T05:22:52.588-05:00Fluoride DangersCarol S. Kopf, BS, MAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17554155868935368892noreply@blogger.comBlogger111125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-46857409638805079232022-08-15T09:30:26.871-04:002022-08-15T09:30:26.871-04:00Not only do we NOT claim the Nazis fluoridated the...Not only do we NOT claim the Nazis fluoridated their camps, the comedic 1960s movie "Dr. Strangelove" is not about that topic, but only contained a single bizarre reference to fluoride. It's the f-lobby that keeps those stories alive. <br /><br />Opponents to fluoridation use modern medical science and real-world data from the 21st century to oppose fluoridation while the f-zealots use logical fallacies such as ridicule, denigration, and strawman to make their arguments - and of course the "trust us, we are the experts" fallacy. <br /><br />I suggest that not only are any who refer to a 1960s movie as validation of their position are not experts, that if you want to get your information from movies, then consider the dentist scene in "Little Shops of Horrors" as representative of that group of propagandists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtWQGtgrC90 Karen Spencernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-89247661134090448222022-08-15T09:28:26.140-04:002022-08-15T09:28:26.140-04:00Not only do we NOT claim the Nazis fluoridated the...Not only do we NOT claim the Nazis fluoridated their camps, the comedic 1960s movie "Dr. Strangelove" is not about that topic, but only contained a single bizarre reference to fluoride. <br /><br />Opponents to fluoridation use modern medical science and real-world data from the 21st century to oppose fluoridation while the f-zealots use logical fallacies such as ridicule, denigration, and strawman to make their arguments - and of course the "trust us, we are the experts" fallacy. <br /><br />I suggest that not only are any who refer to a 1960s movie as validation of their position are not experts, that if you want to get your information from movies, then consider the dentist scene in "Little Shops of Horrors" as representative of that group of propagandists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtWQGtgrC90 Karen Spencernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-46837089310573994272022-06-19T15:06:13.967-04:002022-06-19T15:06:13.967-04:00Myron Allukian, a Boston dentist who has made his ...Myron Allukian, a Boston dentist who has made his career out of promoting fluoridation and who brags he authored the convoluted MA fluoridation law, has been to my community and neighboring communities several times. In a training for the BOH and dentists in 2015, he modeled the best response to anyone who brings up actual science. He pounded the table with his fist and angrily proclaiming that he shouldn't have to argue any piece of science any more than he should be forced to argue that the table is flat. <br /><br />Shades of Galileo. He seems to think he is the pope. However, he is the VP of the American Fluoridation Society which is primarily a group of social media trolls organized by the ADA and its partners to overwhelm local newspapers with their cut-and-copy comments that denigrate local letter writers. A NC dentist in that group made something like 179 comments out of 217 on a Boston site. I counted. That particular troll thinks he is God. Karen Spencernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-54462111943475736912019-11-15T21:50:48.529-05:002019-11-15T21:50:48.529-05:00The link between Aluminum, Fluoride and Alzheimer’...The link between Aluminum, Fluoride and Alzheimer’s disease – Welcome to Fluoride Free Sudbury<br /><br />https://fluoridefreesudbury.wordpress.com/2019/02/26/the-link-between-aluminum-and-alzheimers-disease/Allanhttps://fluoridefreesudbury.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-45114358776028253802019-11-08T05:07:33.235-05:002019-11-08T05:07:33.235-05:00Thanks for sharing this valuable information with ...Thanks for sharing this valuable information with us keep Blogging !! <br /><a href="http://dentocalmdentistkiama.com/current-offers/" rel="nofollow">Dentist Kiama</a> <br /><a href="http://dentocalmdentistkiama.com/" rel="nofollow">Dental Clinic in Kiama</a> <br /><a href="http://dentocalmdentistkiama.com/" rel="nofollow">Dental implants in Kiama</a> <br /><a href="http://dentocalmdentistkiama.com/" rel="nofollow">Cosmetic Dentistry in Kiama</a> <br /><a href="http://dentocalmdentistkiama.com/" rel="nofollow">Emergency Dentistry in Kiama</a> sushmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17698428631131005721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-11153842406542496222019-09-05T23:00:11.828-04:002019-09-05T23:00:11.828-04:00When fluoride medications are given to say that ta...When fluoride medications are given to say that taking calcium supplements or calcium rich food slows and diminishes the absorption of the fluoride. This makes it obvious that fluoride is somehow attracted to calcium ions. Fluoride overdose causes hypocalcemia which is why it is absolutely toxic. All the dentist's are doing is stripping our teeth and bones of minerals that we actually need Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-11893073902608957552019-06-16T10:12:14.953-04:002019-06-16T10:12:14.953-04:00To: Anyone here (in this thread) who was born in B...To: Anyone here (in this thread) who was born in Brooklyn, NY in the early 1960s, and whose birth mother lived there (in Brooklyn) while pregnant with you...<br /><br />Did you have symptoms of fluorosis growing up (as I had)??? (Common symptoms of fluorosis are: discolorization &/or pitting of the teeth, &/or extreme shyness, &/or being very docile)<br /><br />Thank you very much for your reply!<br /><br />10:06 AM<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02945378362039981276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-5390807922879582832019-02-18T09:26:08.221-05:002019-02-18T09:26:08.221-05:00Nice PostNice PostHarlan Craytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00900471871069370941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-51228882327078507812018-11-26T23:33:58.827-05:002018-11-26T23:33:58.827-05:00I have found this post so helpful......and as a co...I have found this post so helpful......and as a country mostly in the capital we are experiencing alarming rates of tooth decays....I personally I have already lost a tooth and more are decayed with holes..but all my life have been using fluoridated toothpaste and tapwater which I believe has high amounts of flouride.... money minded herbalist and dentist are making it big as most of the population is so ignorant on the true causes of their teeth problems....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06683663994402541886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-67363860106003465402018-10-31T13:18:30.086-04:002018-10-31T13:18:30.086-04:00What about the higher incidence of ADHD in childre...What about the higher incidence of ADHD in children of mothers who had been exposed to Fluorides while pregnant??<br />This seems to be another risk factor for ADHD...is it not???<br /> Richard Dabrusin of Newburgh, born in 1939 and participant in the original study. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09417273524463906456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-30852568310093903502018-09-14T00:47:44.732-04:002018-09-14T00:47:44.732-04:00Carol, I have been around a while (66 years). I st...Carol, I have been around a while (66 years). I still continue, naturally and also by choice, to view a human being as simply that. A person, worthy of respect, appreciation, some good attention, all of this. When someone like John Johnson, proceeds to "prove himself" in the manner that he does, prove himself to be a despicable liar, slandering people who with ongoing effort and commitment bring scientific fact and common sense perspective to a misinformed public, I can only stare in wonder! This guy needs to be called out! Thank you for publishing this dialogue.<br />Tom Whitesell, Potsdam NY - in the middle of questioning the appropriateness of continuing fluoridation of Potsdam Village's water.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09563402195511912090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-59209427916406537542018-08-25T16:08:03.755-04:002018-08-25T16:08:03.755-04:00It all seems like distinctions without a differenc...It all seems like distinctions without a difference. <br /><br />Dental fluorosis for communities with 'optimal' fluoridation hovers around half with about 12% having it to the degree of being anticipated to be of 'aesthetic concern' - you think? Who wants mottled teeth? <br /><br />As to oral health disparity - the evidence is biased and inconsistent, so neither Cochrane or York could claim CWF reduces SES differences, so neither should anyone else. <br /><br />“There is insufficient evidence to determine whether water fluoridation results in a change in disparities in caries levels across SES. We did not identify any evidence, meeting the review's inclusion criteria, to determine the effectiveness of water fluoridation for preventing caries in adults.” - Iheozor-Ejiofor et al. in 2015 Cochrane Review of Water Fluoridation to Prevent Tooth Decay<br /><br />"The evidence about reducing inequalities in dental health was of poor quality, contradictory and unreliable.” – McDonagh et al. in 2000 York Review <br /><br />More from the York scientists: <br />"It is particularly worrying then that statements which mislead the public about the review's findings have been made in press releases.... The review did not show water fluoridation to be safe. The quality of the research was too poor to establish with confidence whether or not there are potentially important adverse effects in addition to the high levels of fluorosis." - Professor Trevor Sheldon, chair of Advisory Board of 2000 York Systematic Review of Water Fluoridation, Head of Dept of Health Studies, University of York (2003)<br /><br />“… the Department of Health’s objectivity is questionable – it funded the British Fluoridation Society and, along with many other supporters of fluoridation, it used the York Review’s findings selectively to give an overoptimistic assessment of the evidence in favour of fluoridation.” - Professor Trevor Sheldon, chair of Advisory Board of 2000 York Systematic Review of Water Fluoridation, Head of Dept of Health Studies, University of York (2007)<br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16529087554697579245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-47019049853276711142018-07-23T14:19:59.652-04:002018-07-23T14:19:59.652-04:00Wow...that is a lot of money and time for a small ...Wow...that is a lot of money and time for a small municipality to engage in...and if they aren't being this thorough, it certainly seems like they should be!WoodCooknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-76894334707238517042018-04-27T15:05:36.495-04:002018-04-27T15:05:36.495-04:00Brilliant!Brilliant!KSpencernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-31796376082133563922018-02-15T12:09:39.509-05:002018-02-15T12:09:39.509-05:00Fluoride causes damage to the thyroid which after ...Fluoride causes damage to the thyroid which after over a long period of time the use of fluoride will eventually cause irreversible damage to the thyroid causing a host of illnesses INCLUDING MENTAL ILLNESS....due to the fact the federal government still declares fluoridation is GOOD FOR EVERYBODY IN THE US....BUT!!..the UNITED STATES is the only industrialized country on planet earth to fluoridate their citizens because of other countries research that strongly indicated that fluoridation causes more issues than it apparently helps!!°Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-1994009484501753972017-08-27T16:07:57.726-04:002017-08-27T16:07:57.726-04:00thanksthanksepidemichttp://you-should-know0.blogspot.com.eg/2017/08/outbreak-of-dengue-fever-plagues.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-16285131132020742742017-07-19T14:35:28.357-04:002017-07-19T14:35:28.357-04:00Absolutely! Every scientific review finds fluorida...Absolutely! Every scientific review finds fluoridation policy harmful to many consumers and providing little if any dental benefit. However, every political review of policy in supports fluoridation..... you think maybe the fix is in? <br /><br />Three 2016 Reviews: <br /><br /><b>INEFFECTIVE: </b>“Food fluoridation, fluoridated milk and fluoridated water do not seem, based on the existing literature, to hold sufficient evidence for the reduction of dental caries.” - Sicca, Claudio et al. in "Prevention of Dental Caries: A Review of Effective Treatments." Journal of Clinical and Experimental Dentistry 8.5 (2016): e604–e610. PMC. Web. 29 Dec. 2016. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5149099/<br /><br /><b>UNSAFE: </b>“Consequently, although the World Health Organization continues to support F schemes for caries prevention despite a lack of scientific proof, the F schemes are not able to improve the crystal quality but rather contribute adversely to affect tooth development and increases the risk of developing postmenopausal osteoporosis.” - Mitsuo Kakei, Masayoshi Yoshikawa and Hiroyuki Mishima in "Fluoride Exposure May Accelerate the Osteoporotic Change in Postmenopausal Women: Animal Model of Fluoride-induced Osteoporosis." Adv Tech Biol Med 2016, 4:1 http://dx.doi.org/10.4172/2379-1764.1000170<br /><br /><b>MISREPRESENTED: </b>Fluoridation advocates and their political partners ”share only partial, biased information in order to support their case, and convey information in terms that misrepresent the actual situation.” - A. Gesser-Edelsburg & Y. Shir-Raz in "Communicating risk that involve ‘uncertainty bias’…" Journal of Risk Research. August 2016. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305985332<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-45241170027045958422017-01-21T12:37:45.251-05:002017-01-21T12:37:45.251-05:00Excellent review!
Fluoridation policy is not abo...Excellent review! <br /><br />Fluoridation policy is not about truth, science or public health. It's about either paychecks or not wanting to admit you were wrong. <br /><br /><b>Expert in Medical History:</b> “I now realize that what my colleagues and I were doing was what the history of science shows all professionals do when their pet theory is confronted by disconcerting new evidence: they bend over backwards to explain away the new evidence. They try very hard to keep their theory intact — especially so if their own professional reputations depend on maintaining that theory.” - Dr. John Colquhoun DDS, PhD, former Chief Dental Officer of New Zealand (1998)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-12930276337937745842016-12-28T09:30:50.812-05:002016-12-28T09:30:50.812-05:00This 2014 study deserves more attention. Rats with...This 2014 study deserves more attention. Rats with kidney disease had their conditions worsened simply by consuming "optimally" fluoridated water. <br /><br />Effect of water fluoridation on the development of medial vascular calcification in uremic rats. Martín-Pardillos A,<br />Sosa C, Millán Á, Sorribas V. Toxicology. 2014 Apr 6;318:40-50. doi: 10.1016/j.tox.2014.01.012. Epub 2014 Feb<br />18. PMID: 24561004 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24561004 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-78578533329185524092016-09-21T10:18:33.533-04:002016-09-21T10:18:33.533-04:00Forced-fluoridation certainly is a national and in...Forced-fluoridation certainly is a national and international disgrace. In fact it's a crime against humanity. By the way, it isn't quite true that it is now illegal for industries to emit fluoride into the atmosphere. There is still plenty of fluoride being emitted into the atmosphere, it's just that it isn't completely unregulated as it was in the past. Intel got into trouble for emitting more than it was allowed to not long ago, for example. Many industries contribute to fluoride pollution.Dan Germousehttps://forcedfluoridationfreedomfighters.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-10432292655429551922016-05-31T01:06:50.146-04:002016-05-31T01:06:50.146-04:00When I was about 6 years old, a dentist left a flu...When I was about 6 years old, a dentist left a fluoride treatment in my mouth too long. I can still remember the flavor, butterscotch. I immediately felt sick and that night had uncontrollable vomiting. Even at 6 i knew it was from that treatment. Now at 42 I have many muscle and bone pain related issues. I wonder if there is a link.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-58127707082928808382016-01-26T04:04:38.715-05:002016-01-26T04:04:38.715-05:00Thank. Great info!
You might find this webpage in...Thank. Great info!<br /><br />You might find this webpage interesting as well:<br /><br />http://poisonfluoride.com/Science/DF_More_Caries/df_more_caries.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-1846021910098178922015-09-18T10:49:18.474-04:002015-09-18T10:49:18.474-04:00Here's the video that Debunks Dr. Wu https://w...Here's the video that Debunks Dr. Wu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30umO7s4Zj0FluorideNewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767146308161608863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-59767330848741553172015-06-26T12:23:51.958-04:002015-06-26T12:23:51.958-04:00Carol, thank you for this hard hitting summary/upd...Carol, thank you for this hard hitting summary/update on this issue, and your tag-line hits the nail on the head. Based on the 2011 USGS Minerals Yearbook: Fluorspar, where production and use data on the hydrofluorosilicic acid (HFSA) used for fluoridation, about 275,000 tons went into that market. <br /><br />That much HFSA waste by-product cannot be discharged into waterways, nor can the gases from which it is formed be discharged into the atmosphere under current environmental laws and regulations. How fortunate for phosphate fertilizer producers that they can sell it to water authorities and have THEM discharge about 99% of it into waterways vis public sewer systems.<br /><br />Sales prices range from $500/ton to over $2000/ton. Assuming an average price of $1000/ton, the purveyors of HFSA have a revenue stream of about $275 million/year, assuming 2011 is a typical year. <br /><br />Follow the money indeed!willytheredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09922147906592234799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19275742.post-33628522203013254782015-06-24T12:49:34.213-04:002015-06-24T12:49:34.213-04:00I switched to drinking distilled water about 2 wee...I switched to drinking distilled water about 2 weeks ago as a test. I feel better. It's definitely easier on my urinary tract. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com